. >> host: you talk about nbc news after katrina. >> guest: was lucky enough to interview brian williams a few days after katrina had hit. he had made katrina a priority and was there for weeks and weeks and did a lot of great work and was passionate about starting a national conversation then i talk to him that conversation didn't happen because people would rather watch on tries. i and stood it is the uncomfortable conversation and media doesn't cover poverty enough. one of the reasons why we saw candidates like mitt romney and other g.o.p. to say 47 percent of the country who wants to get things for free or i don't think the media has done a good job to describe the pork. what are their lives like? when there are people working at wal-mart wal-mart, mcdonald's wal-mart, mcdonald's, ups, not necessarily making enough to make ends meet, and maybe to jobs cover riding the bus or by can people right very hard and they feel they tell their story better for them to understand that 47 percent better. >> host: north carolina you are on booktv on c-span2 do with eric deggans. >> caller: i grew